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Q: Is Jesus God or is he son of God.
Submitted By: how_e, 302 days, 17 hours, 6 minutes ago
How can a man who eats sleep and bleeds be a god or a son of god.
Can he simply be just a messenger of God as we are all children of god.
Please try not to post duplicate answers... if you see an answer that you want to post, just add a vote to it and you can add a note as well. Thank You
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Being human, Prophet, Christ - are not mutua
Submitted By: I wish I knew ( 302 days, 11 hours, 8 minutes ago )
Jesus, Son of God, comes from the idea of born of woman and Spirit not of man - in fact the Islamic tradition doesn't have a husband for Marry at all, and in the same tradition Jesus' first miracle is defending Marry from accussations of adultery, while still a new born. Belief in this, Son of God quality, is entirely up to a person's faith in the otherwise unknown potential of the Spirit.
Paul points out in his letters that the man who blessed Abraham had no parents, like Adam, so it's not a unique tradition, no matter how Christians try to take it to mean Jesus was perfect for that reason, since Adam and Mechelzedeck would be as perfect, having been born strait of God's Spirit into the dust. So obviously, Son of God quality, is not what caused the life of Jesus to catch so much attention by the -first- Christians.
The old testament qualification for what it took to be the Messaiah, on the other hand, gives more insight, to be given Spirit without measure. Since everything is considered to be alive by a measured portion of this Spirit, to have it without measure, implies a special parity with God. That is all things of limits are considered entirely encompassed by the unlimited Spirit, and so we would literally be the Spiritual cells, organs, and members of Christ - which is the eternal quality of Manifesting Spirit.
Adam, Mechelzedeck, Abraham, Moses, Jesus ect (including those after), are considered special instances of this eternal Spirit, each given lesser and greater roles, Christhood, Prophethood, Manifestion, Avatar ect. Paul cites Mechelzedeck especially, and Jesus Himself validates this in John 10...
If you bother to read Genesis for example it clearly reads God made man, and commanded them multiply on the earth, and THEN made Adam and Eve... Adam is used in Hindu, Islamic, Baha'i scriptures for example, as the first educator of the Religion of God, -in this particular cycle-.
Paul points out in his letters that the man who blessed Abraham had no parents, like Adam, so it's not a unique tradition, no matter how Christians try to take it to mean Jesus was perfect for that reason, since Adam and Mechelzedeck would be as perfect, having been born strait of God's Spirit into the dust. So obviously, Son of God quality, is not what caused the life of Jesus to catch so much attention by the -first- Christians.
The old testament qualification for what it took to be the Messaiah, on the other hand, gives more insight, to be given Spirit without measure. Since everything is considered to be alive by a measured portion of this Spirit, to have it without measure, implies a special parity with God. That is all things of limits are considered entirely encompassed by the unlimited Spirit, and so we would literally be the Spiritual cells, organs, and members of Christ - which is the eternal quality of Manifesting Spirit.
Adam, Mechelzedeck, Abraham, Moses, Jesus ect (including those after), are considered special instances of this eternal Spirit, each given lesser and greater roles, Christhood, Prophethood, Manifestion, Avatar ect. Paul cites Mechelzedeck especially, and Jesus Himself validates this in John 10...
If you bother to read Genesis for example it clearly reads God made man, and commanded them multiply on the earth, and THEN made Adam and Eve... Adam is used in Hindu, Islamic, Baha'i scriptures for example, as the first educator of the Religion of God, -in this particular cycle-.
Submitted By: how_e
Thanks for the detailed answer, I will read the Genesis once i get it.
Its the idea of a person being born of women and spirit not of man. That bothers me I guess. For some reason i cant help but seeing it as something out of a science fiction film involving aliens inseminating humans. Which I know sounds crazy!. But as equally as a person being born of women and spirit not of man. As they both can be one or the same, writen by someone with and without a scientific knowledge.
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Hercules
Submitted By: ender ( 301 days, 22 hours, 53 minutes ago )
Hercules was the son of a God wasn't he. How much more proof could you need?
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God who was, God who is, and God who is to c
The simplest answer is that Jesus is the "present tense of God."
Check out 5 verses in the last book of the Bible, "The Revelation" otherwise called Apocalyse (1:4, 1:8, 4:8, 11:17, 16:05). God refers to Himself in these terms: God who was, God who is, and God who is to come. In His present tense, He calls Himself, "I AM." (If you're curious, see the discussions between God and Moses.)
For an eternal being, the present is also the child of the past. God the Father is the past tense of God, God the Son is the present tense, and God the Holy Spirit is the future tense.
God limited Himself in time to become the "I am" and later limited Himself in space to become Christ (Jesus / Yeshua) -- born of the virgin Mary.
He quoted David and part of Psalm 22, while on the Cross, ("Father why have you forsaken me"). Most of us write notes to ourselves. Some of us even leave voicemail to ourselves. He chose to limit himself to become human in the present -- so prayer is His way of contacting Himself, past or future.
Before creation, He remains unlimited (The Creator). In the New Creation, he will still retain the human form of Christ to interact with those of us who join Him. That human form is the same one that resurrected after dying on the Cross.
It's not hard to understand if you don't try to see God as 3 people. God has a body, which is Christ (Jesus or Yeshua), and He is a spirit. The Father does not have a separate body. Nor does the Holy Ghost.
Christ is the one that sits in the midst of the Throne of God in the Revelation. He is our "window" onto God, (Who Was, Who Is, and Who Is To Come).
I look forward to exploring the past, present, and the future with Him and even beyond time as we know it. If you want to be with Christ forever, just tell Him. As God, He hears.
Check out 5 verses in the last book of the Bible, "The Revelation" otherwise called Apocalyse (1:4, 1:8, 4:8, 11:17, 16:05). God refers to Himself in these terms: God who was, God who is, and God who is to come. In His present tense, He calls Himself, "I AM." (If you're curious, see the discussions between God and Moses.)
For an eternal being, the present is also the child of the past. God the Father is the past tense of God, God the Son is the present tense, and God the Holy Spirit is the future tense.
God limited Himself in time to become the "I am" and later limited Himself in space to become Christ (Jesus / Yeshua) -- born of the virgin Mary.
He quoted David and part of Psalm 22, while on the Cross, ("Father why have you forsaken me"). Most of us write notes to ourselves. Some of us even leave voicemail to ourselves. He chose to limit himself to become human in the present -- so prayer is His way of contacting Himself, past or future.
Before creation, He remains unlimited (The Creator). In the New Creation, he will still retain the human form of Christ to interact with those of us who join Him. That human form is the same one that resurrected after dying on the Cross.
It's not hard to understand if you don't try to see God as 3 people. God has a body, which is Christ (Jesus or Yeshua), and He is a spirit. The Father does not have a separate body. Nor does the Holy Ghost.
Christ is the one that sits in the midst of the Throne of God in the Revelation. He is our "window" onto God, (Who Was, Who Is, and Who Is To Come).
I look forward to exploring the past, present, and the future with Him and even beyond time as we know it. If you want to be with Christ forever, just tell Him. As God, He hears.
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Answer is always C:
Submitted By: thePhilosopher ( 10 days, 6 hours, 5 minutes ago )
Oh wait, their is no C: for an answer. Hmmm, well in that case. Seek, and you shall find. Your answer is the question. No matter what we believe personally, your answer is yours alone. The question you seek is the answer you've already known. Peace and light to all who are